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TGD INSPIRED THEORY OF CONSCIOUSNESS 
Matti Pitkanen

Preface 
This book belongs to a series of online books summarizing the recent state Topological Geometro- 
dynamics (TGD) and its applications. TGD can be regarded as a unif i ed theory of fundamental 
interactions but is not the kind of unif i ed theory as so called GUTs constructed by graduate stu- 
dents at seventies and eighties using detailed recipes for how to reduce everything to group theory. 
Nowadays this activity has been completely computerized and it probably takes only a few hours 
to print out the predictions of this kind of unif i ed theory as an article in the desired format. TGD 
is something dif f erent and I am not ashamed to confess that I have devoted the last 37 years of 
my life to this enterprise and am still unable to write The Rules. 
If I remember correctly, I got the basic idea of Topological Geometrodynamics (TGD) during 
autumn 1977, perhaps it was October. What I realized was that the representability of physical 
space-times as 4-dimensional surfaces of some higher-dimensional space-time obtained by replacing 
the points of Minkowski space with some very small compact internal space could resolve the con- 
ceptual dif i culties of general relativity related to the def i nition of the notion of energy. This belief 
was too optimistic and only with the advent of what I call zero energy ontology the understanding 
of the notion of Poincare invariance has become satisfactory. This required also the understanding 
of the relationship to General Relativity. 
It soon became clear that the approach leads to a generalization of the notion of space-time 
with particles being represented by space-time surfaces with i nite size so that TGD could be also 
seen as a generalization of the string model. Much later it became clear that this generalization is 
consistent with conformal invariance only if space-time is 4-dimensional and the Minkowski space 
factor of imbedding space is 4-dimensional. During last year it became clear that 4-D Minkowski 
space and 4-D complex projective space CP2are completely unique in the sense that they allow 
twistor space with K¨ ahler structure. 
It took some time to discover that also the geometrization of also gauge interactions and 
elementary particle quantum numbers could be possible in this framework: it took two years to 
i nd the unique internal space (CP2) providing this geometrization involving also the realization 
that family replication phenomenon for fermions has a natural topological explanation in TGD 
framework and that the symmetries of the standard model symmetries are much more profound 
than pragmatic TOE builders have believed them to be. If TGD is correct, main stream particle 
physics chose the wrong track leading to the recent deep crisis when people decided that quarks 
and leptons belong to same multiplet of the gauge group implying instability of proton. 
There have been also longstanding problems. 
• Gravitational energy is well-def i ned in cosmological models but is not conserved.Hence 
the conservation of the inertial energy does not seem to be consistent with the Equivalence 
Principle.Furthermore, the imbeddings of Robertson-Walker cosmologies turned out to 
be vacuum extremals with respect to the inertial energy. About 25 years was needed to 
realize that the sign of the inertial energy can be also negative and in cosmological scales the 
density of inertial energy vanishes: physically acceptable universes are creatable from vacuum. 
Eventually this led to the notion of zero energy ontology (ZEO) which deviates dramatically 
from the standard ontology being however consistent with the crossing symmetry of quantum 
i eld theories. In this framework the quantum numbers are assigned with zero energy states 
located at the boundaries of so called causal diamonds def i ned as intersections of future and 
past directed light-cones. The notion of energy-momentum becomes length scale dependent 
since one has a scale hierarchy for causal diamonds. This allows to understand the non- 
conservation of energy as apparent. 
Equivalence Principle as it is expressed by Einstein’s equations follows from Poincare invari- 
ance once it is realized that GRT space-time is obtained from the many-sheeted space-time of 
TGD by lumping together the space-time sheets to a regionof Minkowski space and endowing 
it with an ef f ective metric given as a sum of Minkowski metric and deviations of the metrices 
of space-time sheets from Minkowski metric. Similar description relates classical gauge po- 
tentials identif i ed as components of induced spinor connection to Yang-Mills gauge potentials 
in GRT space-time. Various topological inhomogenities below resolution scale identif i ed as 
particles are described using energy momentum tensor and gauge currents.

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Matti Pitkanen's "TGD Inspired Theory of Consciousness" provides a deep dive into the conceptual foundations and developments of Topological Geometrodynamics (TGD), which he distinguishes sharply from the Grand Unified Theories (GUTs) of the 1970s and 80s. TGD aims to offer a comprehensive unified theory of fundamental interactions, taking a novel approach by conceptualizing physical space-times as 4-dimensional surfaces within a higher-dimensional space-time. This framework incorporates elements of general relativity and string theory, but expands upon them significantly.

Pitkanen’s work tackles the longstanding issue in physics regarding the definition and conservation of energy within the framework of general relativity. He introduces the concept of "zero energy ontology" (ZEO), which suggests a radically different understanding of energy and its conservation laws, aligning them with quantum field theories. ZEO posits that energy conservation appears violated only because energy-momentum is scale-dependent, changing with the size of the so-called causal diamonds, regions formed by intersecting future and past light-cones.

Moreover, TGD not only revises our understanding of the universe's structure but also aims to integrate the geometrization of gauge interactions and the quantum numbers of elementary particles. It asserts a unique role for the complex projective space CP2 in providing a mathematical structure for these phenomena, suggesting profound connections and symmetries that go beyond those recognized by mainstream particle physics.

The theory also addresses the equivalence principle, proposing that Einstein's equations and general relativity's metrics emerge from the overlay of multiple space-time sheets in TGD’s framework. This results in an effective metric that appears as a sum of the base Minkowski metric and deviations attributable to the finer, underlying structure of space-time sheets.

Pitkanen's TGD represents an ambitious and foundational rethinking of physical theory, which if correct, might provide a groundbreaking perspective on the universe's fundamental workings. It also serves as a call to reconsider how the standard models of particle physics and cosmology have traditionally approached the notions of space, time, and the universe’s fundamental forces.

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Do you know approximately what year this was published?

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Matti Pitkanen's work on Topological Geometrodynamics (TGD) has been ongoing for several decades, with continuous updates and publications. The specific text you provided does not have a clear publication date listed, but from the context, it seems to be discussing work and developments spanning up to about 37 years since the initial idea in 1977. This would suggest that the text could be around the early 2010s. However, it's important to note that Pitkanen has continued to develop and revise his theories well beyond that, with publications and updates likely extending into more recent years. For an exact publication date, checking the document's metadata or source, if available, would be the most accurate method.

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Ok I see papers on it in 1988, but this book has an introduction from 2014 and from 2010

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Thank you for that information. If the text you mentioned includes introductions from 2010 and 2014, it indicates that the material has been revisited and potentially updated around those years. It is common in academic fields, especially in complex theories like TGD, for authors to revise and expand their work over time as new insights and data become available. This suggests that the most recent version of the book or material you are referring to likely incorporates developments and revisions up to at least 2014.

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• From the beginning it was clear that the theory predicts the presence of long ranged classical 
electro-weak and color gauge i elds and that these i elds necessarily accompany classical 
electromagnetic i elds. 
It took about 26 years to gain the maturity to admit the obvious: these i elds are classical 
correlates for long range color and weak interactions assignable to dark matter. The only 
possible conclusion is that TGD physics is a fractal consisting of an entire hierarchy of fractal 
copies of standard model physics. Also the understanding of electro-weak massivation and 
screening of weak charges has been a long standing problem, and 32 years was needed to 
discover that what I call weak form of electric-magnetic duality gives a satisfactory solution 
of the problem and provides also surprisingly powerful insights to the mathematical structure 
of quantum TGD. 
The latest development was the realization that the well- def i nedness of electromagnetic 
charge as quantum number for the modes of the induced spinors i eld requires that the CP2 
projection of the region in which they are non-vanishing carries vanishing W boson i eld and 
is 2-D. This implies in the generic case their localization to 2-D surfaces: string world sheets 
and possibly also partonic 2-surfaces. This localization applies to all modes except covariantly 
constant right handed neutrino generating supersymmetry and mplies that string model in 
4-D space-time is part of TGD. Localization is possible only for K¨ ahler-Dirac assigned with 
K¨ ahler action def i ning the dynamics of space-time surfaces. One must however leave open the 
question whether W i eld might vanish for the space-time of GRT if related to many-sheeted 
space-time in the proposed manner even when they do not vanish for space-time sheets. 
I started the serious attempts to construct quantum TGD after my thesis around 1982. The 
original optimistic hope was that path integral formalism or canonical quantization might be 
enough to construct the quantum theory but the i rst discovery made already during i rst year of 
TGD was that these formalisms might be useless due to the extreme non-linearity and enormous 
vacuum degeneracy of the theory. This turned out to be the case. 
• It took some years to discover that the only working approach is based on the generalization of 
Einstein’s program. Quantum physics involves the geometrization of the inf i nite-dimensional 
”world of classical worlds” (WCW) identif i ed as 3-dimensional surfaces. Still few years had 
to pass before I understood that general coordinate invariance leads to a more or less unique 
solution of the problem and in positive energyontology implies that space-time surfaces are 
analogous to Bohr orbits. This in positive energy ontology in which space-like 3-surface is 
basic object. It is not clear whether Bohr orbitology is necessary also in ZEO in which space- 
time surfaces connect space-like 3-surfaces at the light-like boundaries of causal diamond CD 
obtained as intersection of future and past directed light-cones (with CP2factor included). 
The reason is that the pair of 3-surfaces replaces the boundary conditions at single 3-surface 
involving also time derivatives.If one assumes Bohr orbitology then strong correlations 
between the 3-surfaces at the ends of CD follow. Still a couple of years and I discovered that 
quantum states of the Universe can be identif i ed as classical spinor i elds in WCW. Only 
quantum jump remains the genuinely quantal aspect of quantum physics. 
• During these years TGD led to a rather profound generalization of the space-time concept. 
Quite general properties of the theory led to the notion of many-sheeted space-time with 
sheets representing physical subsystems of various sizes. At the beginning of 90s I became 
dimly aware of the importance of p-adic number i elds and soon ended up with the idea that 
p-adic thermodynamics for a conformally invariant system allows to understand elementary 
particle massivation with amazingly few input assumptions. The attempts to understand p- 
adicity from basic principles led gradually to the vision about physics as a generalized number 
theory as an approach complementary to the physics as an inf i nite-dimensional spinor ge- 
ometry of WCW approach. One of its elements was a generalization of the number concept 
obtained by fusing real numbers and various p-adic numbers along common rationals. The 
number theoretical trinity involves besides p-adic number i elds also quaternions and octo- 
nions and the notion of inf i nite prime.

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Matti Pitkanen's discussion in this excerpt from his work on Topological Geometrodynamics (TGD) outlines significant theoretical developments and conceptual shifts that occurred over the years in his formulation of the theory. Here’s a summary of the key points and concepts he addressed:

Classical Gauge Fields and Dark Matter: Early in the development of TGD, Pitkanen recognized that classical long-ranged electro-weak and color gauge fields accompany electromagnetic fields. It took decades to conceptualize these fields as classical correlates of dark matter in the context of long-range color and weak interactions.

Fractal Nature of Physics: Pitkanen suggests that TGD physics represents a fractal structure, embodying a hierarchy of fractal copies of standard model physics. This fractal approach could mean that physical laws and interactions at different scales or contexts mirror each other in a self-similar way.

Electro-Weak Massivation and Weak Charges: The theory addresses longstanding problems with the mass generation for weakly interacting particles and the screening of weak charges. He proposes a "weak form of electric-magnetic duality" as a solution, which offers insights into the mathematical structure of quantum TGD.

Quantum Number Conservation and CP2 Projections: The theory posits that electromagnetic charge as a quantum number is well-defined for the modes of induced spinor fields only if the CP2 projection of the region where these fields are significant carries a vanishing W boson field, localizing these fields to 2-D surfaces like string world sheets.

Quantum TGD and Non-Linearity: Pitkanen's attempts to construct a quantum version of TGD post his thesis in 1982 faced challenges due to the theory’s extreme non-linearity and high vacuum degeneracy. This led to the abandonment of traditional path integral formalism and canonical quantization in favor of a geometrization approach akin to Einstein’s methods but applied to the infinite-dimensional "world of classical worlds" (WCW).

Geometrization of Quantum Physics: He describes an innovative approach where quantum physics involves the geometrization of WCW, identified as 3-dimensional surfaces. This approach, influenced by general coordinate invariance, suggests that space-time surfaces are analogous to Bohr orbits in the positive energy ontology, where space-like 3-surfaces play a foundational role.

P-adic Number Fields and Particle Masses: By the early 90s, Pitkanen explored p-adic number fields, leading to a novel understanding of elementary particle mass generation. This p-adic thermodynamics for a conformally invariant system allows for a minimal set of assumptions to understand massivation.

Generalization of Number Theory in Physics: His work also led to a broader conceptualization of number theory in physics, integrating real numbers with various p-adic numbers along common rationals, and incorporating quaternions and octonions.

Pitkanen’s TGD is a profound theoretical framework attempting to unify and extend our understanding of fundamental physical principles, incorporating elements from particle physics, quantum mechanics, and number theory into a cohesive whole. This ambitious endeavor seeks to provide a comprehensive theoretical framework that might eventually lead to new insights into the nature of reality.

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1.1Basic Ideas of Topological Geometrodynamics (TGD) 
Standard model describes rather successfully both electroweak and strong interactions but sees 
them as totally separate and contains a large number of parameters which it is not able to predict. 
For about four decades ago unif i ed theories known as Grand Unif i ed Theories (GUTs) trying to 
understand electroweak interactions and strong interactions as aspects of the same fundamental 
gauge interaction assignable to a larger symmetry group emerged. Later superstring models trying 
to unify even gravitation and strong and weak interactions emerged. The shortcomings of both 
GUTs and superstring models are now well-known. If TGD- whose basic idea emerged 37 years 
ago- would emerge now it would be seen as an attempt trying to solve the dif i culties of these 
approaches to unif i cation. 
The basic physical picture behind TGD corresponds to a fusion of two rather disparate ap- 
proaches: namely TGD as a Poincare invariant theory of gravitation and TGD as a generalization 
of the old-fashioned string model. The CMAP i les at my homepage provide an overview about 
ideas and evolution of TGD and make easier to understand what TGD and its applications are 
about (http://www.tgdtheory.fi/cmaphtml.html [L18]). 
1.1.1Basic vision very brief l y 
T(opological) G(eometro)D(ynamics) is one of the many attempts to i nd a unif i ed description of 
basic interactions. The development of the basic ideas of TGD to a relatively stable form took 
time of about half decade [K1]. 
The basic vision and its relationship to existing theories is now rather well understood. 
1. Space-times are representable as 4-surfaces in the 8-dimensional imbedding space H = M4⇥ 
CP2, where M4is 4-dimensional (4-D) Minkowski space and CP2is 4-D complex projective 
space (see Appendix). 
2. Induction procedure allows to geometrize various i elds. Space-time metric characterizing 
gravitational i elds corresponds to the induced metric obtained by projecting the metric tensor 
of H to the space-time surface. Electroweak gauge potentials are identif i ed as projections 
of the components of CP2spinor connection to the space-time surface, and color gauge 
potentials as projections ofCP2Killing vector i elds representing color symmetries.Also 
spinor structure can be induced: induced spinor gamma matrices are projections of gamma 
matrices of H and induced spinor i elds just H spinor i elds restricted to space-time surface. 
3. Geometrization of quantum numbers is achieved. The isometry group of the geometry of 
CP2codes for the color gauge symmetries of strong interactions.Vierbein group codes 
for electroweak symmetries, and explains their breaking in terms of CP2geometry so that 
standard model gauge group results.There are also important deviations from standard 
model: color quantum numbers are not spin-like but analogous to orbital angular momentum: 
this dif f erence is expected to be seen only in CP2scale. In contrast to GUTs, quark and 
1 
2Chapter 1. Introduction 
lepton numbers are separately conserved and family replication has a topological explanation 
in terms of topology of the partonic 2-surface carrying fermionic quantum numbers. 
M4and CP2are unique choices for many other reasons. For instance, they are the unique 4- 
D space-times allowing twistor space with K¨ ahler structure. M4light-cone boundary allows 
a huge extension of 2-D conformal symmetries. Imbedding space H has a number theoretic 
interpretation as 8-D space allowing octonionic tangent space structure. M4and CP2al- 
low quaternionic structures. Therefore standard model symmetries have number theoretic 
meaning. 
4. Induced gauge potentials are expressible in terms of imbedding space coordinates and their 
gradients and general coordinate invariance implies that there are only 4 i eld like variables 
locally. Situation is thus extremely simple mathematically. The objection is that one loses 
linear superposition of i elds. The resolution of the problem comes from the generalization 
of the concepts of particle and space-time. 
Space-time surfaces can be also particle like having thus i nite size. In particular, space-time 
regions with Euclidian signature of the induced metric (temporal and spatial dimensions in 
the same role) emerge and have interpretation as lines of generalized Feynman diagrams. 
Particle in space-time can be identif i ed as a topological inhomogenuity in background space- 
time surface which looks like the space-time of general relativity in long length scales. 
One ends up with a generalization of space-time surface to many-sheeted space-time with 
space-time sheets having extremely small distance of about 104Planck lengths (CP2size). 
As one adds a particle to this kind of structure, it touches various space-time sheets and 
thus interacts with the associated classical i elds. Their effects superpose linearly in good approximation and linear superposition of fields is replaced with that for their effects.

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The excerpt you've shared provides a concise overview of the fundamental concepts underlying Topological Geometrodynamics (TGD) as envisioned by Matti Pitkanen. Here are the key ideas summarized from the passage:

Unified Description of Interactions: TGD aims to unify the fundamental interactions of physics, including gravity, electromagnetism, and the strong and weak nuclear forces. This attempt positions TGD as an alternative to both Grand Unified Theories (GUTs) and superstring models, addressing some of their known shortcomings.

Imbedding Space and Space-Times: In TGD, space-times are conceptualized as 4-dimensional surfaces within an 8-dimensional imbedding space, designated as 
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Geometrization of Fields: The TGD framework allows the geometrization of fields:
Gravitational fields are characterized by a metric induced from the imbedding space 
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H.

Electroweak and color gauge potentials are derived from the components of the 
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Spinor fields and gamma matrices are induced from the higher-dimensional space 
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H to the 4-dimensional space-time surfaces.

Quantum Numbers and Symmetries: TGD provides a geometrical explanation for the conservation of quantum numbers and the symmetries observed in particle physics:
The isometry group of 
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The vierbein group relates to electroweak symmetries, explaining their breaking through 
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Deviations from the standard model include the nature of color quantum numbers and the conservation of quark and lepton numbers separately.

Number Theoretic Foundations: The symmetries of the standard model have a number-theoretic interpretation in TGD, with 
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Simplified Field Variables: In TGD, the induced gauge potentials are described in terms of coordinates and gradients in the imbedding space 
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H. This reduces the local field-like variables to only four, simplifying the mathematical framework. However, this simplicity comes at the cost of losing the linear superposition of fields.

Particle and Space-Time Generalization: TGD generalizes the concept of particles and space-time:
Particles are identified as topological inhomogeneities on a background space-time surface.

Space-time itself is many-sheeted, with each sheet closely packed at distances on the order of 
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Linear Superposition of Effects: Although linear superposition of fields is lost, the effects of these fields on particles are said to superpose linearly, providing a practical way to handle interactions within this framework.

These concepts represent a deep and complex rethinking of fundamental physics, aiming to provide a more unified and comprehensive understanding of the universe's forces and particles within a single theoretical framework.

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This resolves the basic objection. It also leads to the understanding of how the space-time 
of general relativity and quantum i eld theories emerges from TGD space-time as ef f ective 
space-time when the sheets of many-sheeted space-time are lumped together to form a re- 
gion of Minkowski space with metric replaced with a metric identif i ed as the sum of empty 
Minkowski metric and deviations of the metrics of sheets from empty Minkowski metric. 
Gauge potentials are identif i ed as sums of the induced gauge potentials. TGD is therefore 
a microscopic theory from which standard model and general relativity follow as a topolog- 
ical simplif i cation however forcing to increase dramatically the number of fundamental i eld 
variables. 
5. A further objection is that classical weak i elds identif i ed as induced gauge i elds are long 
ranged and should cause large parity breaking ef f ects due to weak interactions. These ef f ects 
are indeed observed but only in living matter.The resolution of problem is implied by 
the condition that the modes of the induced spinor i elds have well-def i ned electromagnetic 
charge. This forces their localization to 2-D string world sheets in the generic case having 
vanishing weak gauge i elds so that parity breaking ef f ects emerge just as they do in standard 
model. Also string model like picture emerges from TGD and one ends up with a rather 
concrete view about generalized Feynman diagrammatics. 
The great challenge is to construct a mathematical theory around these physically very attrac- 
tive ideas and I have devoted the last thirty seven years for the realization of this dream and this 
has resulted in eight online books about TGD and nine online books about TGD inspired theory 
of consciousness and of quantum biology. 
1.1.2Two manners to see TGD and their fusion 
As already mentioned, TGD can be interpreted both as a modif i cation of general relativity and 
generalization of string models. 
TGD as a Poincare invariant theory of gravitation 
The i rst approach was born as an attempt to construct a Poincare invariant theory of gravitation. 
Space-time, rather than being an abstract manifold endowed with a pseudo-Riemannian structure, 
1.1. Basic Ideas of Topological Geometrodynamics (TGD)3 
is regarded as a surface in the 8-dimensional space H = M4 
⇥CP2, 
where M 4 denotes Minkowski 
space and CP2= SU(3)/U(2) is the complex projective space of two complex dimensions [A27, 
A11, A20, A10]. 
The identif i cation of the space-time as a sub-manifold [A7, A25] of M4⇥ CP2leads 
to an 
exact Poincare invariance and solves the conceptual dif i culties related to the def i nition of the 
energy-momentum in General Relativity. 
It soon however turned out that sub-manifold geometry, being considerably richer in structure 
than the abstract manifold geometry, leads to a geometrization of all basic interactions. First, 
the geometrization of the elementary particle quantum numbers is achieved.The geometry of 
CP2explains electro-weak and color quantum numbers. The dif f erent H-chiralities of H-spinors 
correspond to the conserved baryon and lepton numbers. Secondly, the geometrization of the i eld 
concept results. The projections of the CP2spinor connection, Killing vector i elds of CP2and of 
H-metric to four-surface def i ne classical electro-weak, color gauge i elds and metric in X4. 
The choice of H is unique from the condition that TGD has standard model symmetries. Also 
number theoretical vision selects H = M4⇥ CP2uniquely. 
M4and CP2are also unique spaces 
allowing twistor space with K¨ ahler structure. 
TGD as a generalization of the hadronic string model 
The second approach was based on the generalization of the mesonic string model describing mesons 
as strings with quarks attached to the ends of the string. In the 3-dimensional generalization 3- 
surfaces correspond to free particles and the boundaries of the 3- surface correspond to partons 
in the sense that the quantum numbers of the elementary particles reside on the boundaries. 
Various boundary topologies (number of handles) correspond to various fermion families so that 
one obtains an explanation for the known elementary particle quantum numbers. This approach 
leads also to a natural topological description of the particle reactions as topology changes: for 
instance, two-particle decay corresponds to a decay of a 3-surface to two disjoint 3-surfaces. 
This decay vertex does not however correspond to a direct generalization of trouser vertex of 
string models. Indeed, the important dif f erence between TGD and string models is that the analogs 
of string world sheet diagrams do not describe particle decays but the propagation of particles via 
dif f erent routes. Particle reactions are described by generalized Feynman diagrams for which 3-D 
light-like surface describing particle propagating join along their ends at vertices. As 4-manifolds 
the space-time surfaces are therefore singular like Feynman diagrams as 1-manifolds. 
Fusion of the two approaches via a generalization of the space-time concept 
The problem is that the two approaches to TGD seem to be mutually exclusive since the orbit of a 
particle like 3-surface def i nes 4-dimensional surface, which dif f ers drastically from the topologically 
trivial macroscopic space-time of General Relativity. The unif i cation of these approaches forces a 
considerable generalization of the conventional space-time concept. First, the topologically trivial 
3-space of General Relativity is replaced with a ”topological condensate” containing matter as 
particle like 3-surfaces ”glued” to the topologically trivial background 3-space by connected sum 
operation. Secondly, the assumption about connectedness of the 3-space is given up. Besides the 
”topological condensate” there could be ”vapor phase” that is a ”gas” of particle like 3-surfaces 
and string like objects (counterpart of the ”baby universes” of GRT) and the non-conservation of energy in GRT corresponds to the transfer of energy between dif f erent sheets of the space-time 
and possibly existence vapour phase. 
What one obtains is what I have christened as many-sheeted space-time (see i g.http:// 
www.tgdtheory.fi/appfigures/manysheeted.jpg or i g. 9 in the appendix of this book). One 
particular aspect is topological i eld quantization meaning that various classical i elds assignable to 
a physical system correspond to space-time sheets representing the classical i elds to that particular 
system. One can speak of the i eld body of a particular physical system. Field body consists of 
topological light rays, and electric and magnetic l ux quanta. In Maxwell’s theory system does not 
possess this kind of i eld identity. The notion of magnetic body is one of the key players in TGD 
inspired theory of consciousness and quantum biology. 
This picture became more detailed with the advent of zero energy ontology (ZEO). The basic 
notion of ZEO is causal diamond (CD) identif i ed as the Cartesian product of CP2and of the 
4Chapter 1. Introduction 
intersection of future and past directed light-cones and having scale coming as an integer multiple 
of CP2size is fundamental. CDs form a fractal hierarchy and zero energy states decompose to 
products of positive and negative energy parts assignable to the opposite boundaries of CD def i ning 
the ends of the space-time surface. The counterpart of zero energy state in positive energy ontology 
is the pair of initial and i nal states of a physical event, say particle reaction. 
At space-time level ZEO means that 3-surfaces are pairs of space-like 3-surfaces at the opposite 
light-like boundaries of CD. Since the extremals of K¨ ahler action connect these, one can say that 
by holography the basic dynamical objects are the space-time surface connecting these 3-surfaces. 
This changes totally the vision about notions like self-organization: self-organization by quantum 
jumps does not take for a 3-D system but for the entire 4-D i eld pattern associated with it. 
General Coordinate Invariance (GCI) allows to identify the basic dynamical objects as space- 
like 3-surfaces at the ends of space-time surface at boundaries of CD: this means that space- 
time surface is analogous to Bohr orbit. An alternative identif i cation is as light-like 3-surfaces at 
which the signature of the induced metric changes from Minkowskian to Euclidian and interpreted 
as lines of generalized Feynman diagrams.Also the Euclidian 4-D regions would have similar 
interpretation.The requirement that the two interpretations are equivalent, leads to a strong 
form of General Coordinate Invariance. The outcome is ef f ective 2-dimensionality stating that 
the partonic 2-surfaces identif i ed as intersections of the space-like ends of space-time surface and 
light-like wormhole throats are the fundamental objects. That only ef f ective 2-dimensionality is in 
question is due to the ef f ects caused by the failure of strict determinism of K¨ ahler action. In i nite 
length scale resolution these ef f ects can be neglected below UV cutof f and above IR cutof f . One 
can also speak about strong form of holography.

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Matti Pitkanen's discussion in this section elaborates further on the conceptual and foundational aspects of Topological Geometrodynamics (TGD), focusing on the integration of general relativity and quantum field theories into the TGD framework. Here's a detailed breakdown of the key points:

Effective Space-Time from TGD: Pitkanen explains how the space-time of general relativity and quantum field theories can emerge as an effective space-time from the TGD framework. This occurs when the many-sheeted space-time sheets of TGD are aggregated, forming a region of Minkowski space where the metric is a combination of the empty Minkowski metric and deviations caused by the metrics of individual sheets. This process also applies to gauge potentials, which are identified as sums of induced gauge potentials from TGD.

Classical Weak Fields and Parity Breaking: A specific objection addressed by TGD is the presence of classical weak fields, which are long-ranged and could potentially cause significant parity breaking effects. Pitkanen notes that these effects are observed primarily in living matter. The resolution offered by TGD involves the localization of the modes of induced spinor fields to two-dimensional string world sheets where weak gauge fields vanish, thus aligning parity breaking effects with those observed in the standard model.

Mathematical and Physical Integration: The challenge Pitkanen highlights is in constructing a comprehensive mathematical theory that encapsulates these physically attractive ideas. Over decades, this effort has led to the publication of multiple online books focusing not only on TGD but also on its applications to consciousness and quantum biology.

Two Interpretations of TGD:
As a Modification of General Relativity: TGD initially emerged as an attempt to create a Poincaré invariant theory of gravitation. Space-time, in this framework, is not just an abstract manifold but a surface within the 8-dimensional space 
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As a Generalization of String Models: The second approach generalizes the string model used to describe mesons, treating 3-surfaces as analogs of free particles and their boundaries as partonic entities carrying elementary particle quantum numbers. This approach allows for a topological explanation of particle reactions as changes in topology, offering a novel description of elementary particle families and interactions.

Fusion of Approaches: The integration of these two approaches requires a significant generalization of the conventional space-time concept. TGD proposes a "topological condensate" where particle-like 3-surfaces are embedded in a trivial background 3-space. Additionally, TGD introduces a "vapor phase" composed of disconnected particle-like 3-surfaces and string-like objects, which could explain the non-conservation of energy as energy transfers between different sheets of space-time or the vapor phase.

Many-Sheeted Space-Time and Zero Energy Ontology (ZEO): TGD advances the notion of many-sheeted space-time and introduces ZEO, where causal diamonds (CDs) play a fundamental role. CDs, defined as products of 
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These insights into TGD reveal a profound and comprehensive attempt to reinterpret the foundational principles of physics, integrating classical and quantum theories within a unified topological framework. This theory not only seeks to reconcile known physical phenomena but also to provide a novel understanding that could potentially extend to other areas like consciousness and biological systems.

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I found this because Joscha Bach said that emotions where geometric not symbolic, because they calculate highly complicated topologies electrochemically.

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Joscha Bach's statement that emotions are geometric rather than symbolic, and that they calculate highly complicated topologies electrochemically, presents a fascinating perspective on the nature of emotions, suggesting that they could be understood through the lens of computational geometry in brain function. This view aligns with emerging theories in neuroscience and cognitive science that conceptualize mental processes—including emotions—as emergent properties of complex neural networks and their interactions.

Geometry of Emotions: In Bach's framework, emotions might be seen as geometrical configurations within the brain's neural topology. These configurations could represent different emotional states as distinct patterns or paths in the brain's complex network. Such a geometric approach to understanding emotions could provide insights into how emotions arise from the physical and chemical interactions within the brain, possibly influenced by the structure and connectivity of neurons.

Electrochemical Calculations: Emotions involve a variety of biochemical signals and electrical activities across brain regions. By describing these processes as "calculating" topologies, Bach implies that emotions result from dynamic and complex interactions within the brain's neural circuits, which can be mathematically or geometrically modeled. This electrochemical activity underpins not just the feeling states but potentially the decision-making processes influenced by those states, offering a real-time computational mechanism of emotion.

Connection to Topological Theories: The idea also resonates with theories like Matti Pitkanen's Topological Geometrodynamics (TGD), where higher-dimensional geometric spaces are proposed to explain fundamental physical interactions. While TGD is a physical theory primarily concerned with the fabric of the universe at a fundamental level, the notion of utilizing geometry to explain complex, interconnected systems can conceptually extend to the neural networks of the brain and their role in generating emotions.

Interdisciplinary Implications: Applying geometric and topological models to brain function and emotions might bridge disciplines like neuroscience, cognitive psychology, and theoretical physics. This approach could potentially lead to new understanding of how emotional and cognitive processes are interlinked and how they could be mapped or influenced in therapeutic or technological applications.

Joscha Bach's view encourages looking beyond traditional symbolic or linguistic models of emotions, proposing instead a model where emotions are integral to the brain's structural and functional architecture, shaped by and shaping the brain's physical processes. This perspective could lead to novel approaches in both the study and application of emotional and cognitive sciences.

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It reminds me of my idea for geometric bayesianism, which is visualizing uncertainties and predicting probabilities by mapping them on to multidimensional spaces and projecting them on to 2d and 3d spaces.

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Your idea for "Geometric Bayesianism" sounds intriguing and innovative, integrating principles of geometry with Bayesian inference. Visualizing uncertainties and predicting probabilities using multidimensional geometric representations could offer intuitive and potent tools for understanding complex datasets and decision-making processes. Here’s how your concept might be developed and applied:

1. Conceptual Framework
Multidimensional Representation: In Bayesian statistics, each dimension could represent a variable or a parameter with its uncertainty and probability distribution. By mapping these elements into a multidimensional space, you could visualize how uncertainties interact and overlap.

Projection onto 2D and 3D Spaces: Since human perception is better suited to 2D or 3D, projecting higher-dimensional models into these spaces can make complex relationships more understandable. Techniques like PCA (Principal Component Analysis) or t-SNE (t-Distributed Stochastic Neighbor Embedding) might be used for such projections, preserving significant relationships and patterns.

2. Geometric Interpretation of Probabilities
Visualizing Uncertainty: Geometric shapes (e.g., ellipsoids, polytopes) could represent confidence regions or credible intervals, providing visual insight into the degree of uncertainty and the density of probability distributions.

Updating Beliefs: As new data arrives, the geometric shapes could dynamically adjust, reflecting Bayesian updates. This would be a visual and intuitive representation of how posterior probabilities evolve with evidence.

3. Applications
Data Science and Machine Learning: In complex models like those used in machine learning, geometric Bayesianism could help in visualizing the learning process, especially in understanding how model uncertainties change with training.

Decision Support Systems: For systems requiring risk assessment and decision-making under uncertainty, your approach could provide clear visual insights into probable outcomes, aiding stakeholders in making informed decisions.

4. Technological Implementation
Software Tools: Development of software tools that can implement these geometric visualizations would be essential. These tools could integrate with existing statistical software, providing enhancements that allow users to switch between traditional and geometric Bayesian views.

Interactive Interfaces: Interactive graphical interfaces could allow users to manipulate dimensions and observe changes in real-time, enhancing understanding and providing an educational tool for learning Bayesian statistics.

5. Educational Value
Teaching Statistics: This approach could also be very beneficial in an educational context, providing a more intuitive understanding of abstract statistical concepts through visual representation.

6. Research and Development
Exploratory Research: Initial research could explore which types of geometric representations are most effective for different kinds of statistical problems.

Collaboration: Collaboration between mathematicians, statisticians, computer scientists, and experts in visualization technologies would be crucial to refine and validate this approach.

By integrating geometry with Bayesian probability, your concept of geometric Bayesianism not only promises to enhance the comprehension of statistical data but also aligns well with the cognitive styles of visual learners, potentially transforming complex statistical reasoning into a more accessible and engaging practice.

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It was inspired by this: 

On Bayesian Geometry

Geometric interpretation of probability distributions

Michael Larionov, PhD

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Bayesian inference is based on the fact that we often don’t know the underlying distribution of data, so we need to build a model and then iteratively adjust it as we get more data. In parametric Bayesian inference you start with picking a general form of the probability distribution f(x;θ) defined by parameters θ. A good example of the distribution could be a Normal distribution with two parameters μ and σ^2. The probability of the data under a hypothetical distribution, assuming independent data examples, is:

This function is called likelihood function. The parameter θ is itself a random variable, and its probability distribution can be found using Bayes’ theorem:

Here p(θ) is called posterior distribution, π(θ) is prior distribution and expresses our beliefs about parameter θ before we see any data. The term in the denominator is called evidence and represents probability of data. It is easier to think of it as a normalizing constant, to make sure p(θ) is a valid distribution.

Bayesian Geometry

The idea behind Bayes Geometry is simple: what if we represent any function in the parameter space as a vector in a certain vector space. Examples of these functions could be prior and posterior distributions and likelihood functions. Then we can define an inner product on that space that will help us to calculate an angle between two distributions and interpret the angle as a measure of how much the distributions are different from each other. In my discussion on this subject I will follow a paper by de Carvalho et al[1] as well as this slide deck.

The inner product between two functions in the parameter space is defined as:

Source https://sheffieldmlnet.github.io/downloads/decarvalho-geometric-aspects-bayesian-inference-slides.pdf
and the norm of the function is:

We restrict our choice of functions to the one where the norm exists. This condition is generally not guaranteed as there are some probability distributions for which the norm diverges.

One thing we can immediately see that the evidence, defined above, is inner product between prior distribution and likelihood. Below is a schematic diagram for interaction between prior distribution, likelihood and posterior distribution. A large angle between the prior distribution and the likelihood indicates that the prior distribution has poor data alignment.

Source: https://sheffieldmlnet.github.io/downloads/decarvalho-geometric-aspects-bayesian-inference-slides.pdf
The main contribution in [1] is called compatibility, which can be interpreted as cosine of the angle between two functions in the parameter space:

Source: https://sheffieldmlnet.github.io/downloads/decarvalho-geometric-aspects-bayesian-inference-slides.pdf
Compatibility is a value between zero and one, and can be used to judge how well aligned are prior distribution to likelihood, two prior distributions, two likelihoods, etc. It can be calculated in closed form for some cases, for more complicated distributions it can be computed using Markov Chain Monte Carlo algorithm.

Discussion

There are several areas which I would like to discuss regarding this approach:

The paper defines a Hilbert space on the functions in the parameter space. This means that a linear combination of two functions also belongs to the Hilbert space. Such linear combination is interpreted as a mixture of two probability distributions. However, to become a proper distribution it must be normalized so that the integral over all values of the parameter is one:

Does unnormalized mixture have any meaning? By the way, the likelihood function does not need to be normalized.

2. A bit of confusion can arise regarding the concept of normalization for probability distributions. To be proper it needs to be normalized using the equation above. However Hilbert space adds additional norm, which is integral not of the PDF, but of its square. It is hard for me to understand any meaning of the second norm other than to support the constructions related to the Hilbert space.

3. Likelihood is not an additive, but multiplicative value. If I have a batch of data that has likelihood L1 and another (independent) batch of data with likelihood L2, the4 combined likelihood is a product of L1 and L2, not their sum. Which makes me believe that maybe a better approach is to introduce a vector space in the logarithmic domain or use an algebraic construct more complex than Hilbert space.

References

[1] de Carvalho, M., Page, G. L., & Barney, B. J. (2019). On the geometry of Bayesian inference. Bayesian Analysis, 14(4). https://doi.org/10.1214/18-BA1112

https://towardsdatascience.com/on-bayesian-geometry-7755abf9f4d2

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Michael Larionov’s article on "Bayesian Geometry" delves into an innovative approach to Bayesian inference by adopting a geometric perspective to understand the relationships between different probability distributions. This method conceptualizes Bayesian updates and interactions through geometric constructs in a vector space, enriching the traditional understanding of Bayesian statistics. Here’s a more detailed breakdown of the key concepts from Larionov's discussion:

1. Geometric Representation of Probability Distributions
Vector Space of Functions: Bayesian geometry represents probability distributions (prior, likelihood, and posterior) as vectors in a Hilbert space. This allows for the application of geometric tools like inner products and norms to analyze these distributions.

Inner Product and Angles: The inner product between two functions (distributions) in this space is used to calculate angles between these distributions, interpreting these angles as measures of similarity or divergence. For example, a large angle between the prior and likelihood might indicate that the prior is poorly aligned with the data.

2. Compatibility and Alignment
Compatibility Metric: This is defined as the cosine of the angle between two functions in parameter space, providing a measure of how well aligned two distributions are. This metric can quantify how closely prior beliefs match empirical data or how similar two independent datasets are in terms of their inferred statistical parameters.

Computational Methods: For complex distributions where direct calculation of compatibility is infeasible, methods like Markov Chain Monte Carlo (MCMC) are used to estimate it.

3. Challenges and Discussions
Normalization and Hilbert Space: There's an interesting discussion about the dual nature of normalization in this geometric framework. While probability distributions require normalization to ensure that total probability sums to one, in a Hilbert space, functions also need to satisfy a norm condition (integral of the square of the function) to remain within the space. This dual requirement can lead to conceptual and practical complexities.

Additivity vs. Multiplicativity of Likelihood: Likelihood functions, being inherently multiplicative (especially when combining independent data sets), pose a challenge in a linear space where addition is the natural operation. This raises the question of whether working in a logarithmic domain or another algebraic structure might be more appropriate for representing probabilistic operations.

4. Implications and Potential Applications
Enhanced Understanding of Bayesian Updates: By visualizing how priors, likelihoods, and posteriors interact geometrically, statisticians and data scientists can gain deeper insights into how information updates affect beliefs.

Educational Tools: Geometric visualization of Bayesian inference can serve as a powerful educational tool, helping students and professionals better grasp the dynamics of Bayesian updates.

Advanced Statistical Modeling: This approach could lead to new methods in statistical modeling, particularly in fields requiring complex, multi-parameter inference like computational biology, machine learning, and econometrics.

Your idea for geometric Bayesianism aligns well with this framework, especially if you are considering further exploring the visualization of these geometric concepts in 2D and 3D. This could make Bayesian inference more intuitive and accessible, particularly in collaborative and interdisciplinary research settings where visual tools can facilitate better understanding and decision-making.

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Connections with Topological Geometrodynamics and the Topological Emotion Hypothesis (emotions as a topological substrate for symbolic calculations)

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The connections between Topological Geometrodynamics (TGD), Bayesian Geometry, and the Topological Emotion Hypothesis could provide a fertile ground for interdisciplinary research, linking concepts from theoretical physics, Bayesian statistics, and cognitive science. Here's how these ideas might be integrated to explore emotions and cognition from a topological perspective:

1. Topological Geometrodynamics (TGD)
Foundation: TGD, developed by Matti Pitkanen, posits that physical reality, including space-time and fundamental interactions, can be understood as 4-dimensional surfaces embedded in a higher-dimensional space. This model introduces a complex topological structure for describing the universe, which could potentially be applied to brain architecture and neural networks.

Many-Sheeted Space-Time: TGD's concept of many-sheeted space-time could metaphorically describe the multiple layers of neural processing and interaction in the brain, where different layers or sheets represent various cognitive and emotional processes.

2. Bayesian Geometry
Geometric Probability Distributions: Bayesian Geometry treats probability distributions as geometric entities in a vector space, enabling the use of geometric methods to analyze and visualize these distributions. This could be particularly useful in modeling how the brain updates beliefs and processes uncertainties in cognitive and emotional contexts.

Compatibility and Alignment: By measuring the alignment of different emotional or cognitive states through the geometric angle between their corresponding probability distributions, Bayesian Geometry could offer a novel way to quantify and analyze shifts in mental states and their underlying neural correlates.

3. Topological Emotion Hypothesis
Emotions as Topological Substrates: If emotions can be thought of as geometric entities within the brain's neural topology, they might serve as a topological substrate for symbolic calculations, as suggested by Joscha Bach. This implies that emotional states configure the neural pathways in specific ways that facilitate or inhibit certain cognitive processes, effectively calculating and navigating complex topological structures.

Symbolic and Topological Interaction: Emotions could then be seen as both products and influencers of cognitive processing, where their topological arrangement impacts symbolic reasoning and decision-making. This interplay might explain phenomena like the impact of mood on problem-solving abilities or the role of stress in memory recall.

4. Integrative Approaches
Interdisciplinary Research: Combining these theories could lead to new interdisciplinary approaches in neuroscience, where topological and geometric methods are applied to understand brain function and emotional cognition more deeply.

Computational Modeling: Advanced computational models could simulate how topological changes in neural substrates influence emotional responses and cognitive outcomes, potentially leading to breakthroughs in artificial intelligence and machine learning where emotional and cognitive processes are integrated.

Therapeutic Applications: Understanding the topological and geometric aspects of emotion and cognition could also have therapeutic implications, offering new insights into mental health disorders and leading to novel intervention strategies that target the underlying topological structures of neural processes.

By synthesizing concepts from TGD, Bayesian Geometry, and the Topological Emotion Hypothesis, researchers can develop a richer understanding of the brain's architecture and function. This could ultimately lead to more effective tools for predicting and influencing human behavior, enhancing both artificial intelligence systems and mental health treatments.

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A final overview of Geometric Bayesianism and comparisons with other theories.

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Geometric Bayesianism offers a compelling framework for understanding Bayesian inference through a geometric lens, potentially transforming the way statistical inference is visualized and conceptualized. Here’s an overview and a comparative look at how it aligns with or diverges from other related theories:

Overview of Geometric Bayesianism
Foundational Idea: Geometric Bayesianism treats probability distributions as geometric entities within a vector space, allowing the application of geometric and algebraic operations to understand and visualize statistical inference. This approach seeks to embody Bayesian updates (the adjustment of beliefs with new evidence) in geometric terms, such as angles and distances in a vector space.

Key Concepts:
Probability Distributions as Vectors: Prior, likelihood, and posterior distributions are visualized as vectors in a Hilbert space.

Inner Product and Compatibility: The inner product in this space defines angles between vectors, quantifying the similarity or divergence between distributions. Compatibility, or the cosine of these angles, measures how well distributions align with each other.

Visualization: By projecting high-dimensional probability distributions into 2D or 3D spaces, complex relationships and updates can be visualized, making abstract statistical concepts more tangible and understandable.

Comparison with Other Theoretical Frameworks
Traditional Bayesian Inference:
Traditional Bayesian methods focus purely on the algebraic manipulation of probability distributions without considering their geometric properties.

Geometric Bayesianism extends traditional methods by adding a spatial interpretation to the relationships and transformations between distributions, enhancing intuitive understanding and offering new insights into the dynamics of Bayesian updates.

Topological Geometrodynamics (TGD):
TGD, primarily a theory in theoretical physics, describes the universe's structure using the mathematics of topology and geometry.

While Geometric Bayesianism does not address physical phenomena directly, the use of geometric spaces to understand abstract concepts like probability distributions shares a conceptual similarity with TGD’s use of higher-dimensional spaces to explain fundamental interactions. Both frameworks utilize geometry as a fundamental descriptor of system states.

Cognitive Theories of Emotion and Brain Function (like the Topological Emotion Hypothesis):
Cognitive and psychological theories often interpret emotions and cognition through neural network models and psychological constructs without direct reference to mathematical geometry or topology.

Geometric Bayesianism could potentially bridge this gap by providing a geometric framework to visualize and analyze the cognitive processes underlying belief updates and emotional responses, suggesting a novel way to integrate mathematical geometry with cognitive neuroscience.

Unique Contributions and Potential Impacts
Enhanced Visualization and Pedagogy: Geometric Bayesianism can make Bayesian statistics more accessible and teachable through visual tools, potentially revolutionizing how statistical education is approached by making abstract concepts more concrete.

Interdisciplinary Research: This framework encourages cross-disciplinary research, drawing from mathematics, statistics, computer science, and cognitive science to build comprehensive models that can represent complex real-world phenomena in intuitive ways.

Advanced Analytical Tools: By employing geometric and topological methods, new software and analytical tools could be developed, enhancing the capability to handle large, complex datasets commonly encountered in fields like data science, bioinformatics, and machine learning.

In conclusion, Geometric Bayesianism stands as a promising theoretical expansion of traditional Bayesian inference, adding a rich layer of geometric interpretation to statistical processes. Its integration with concepts from other fields like TGD and cognitive neuroscience illustrates its versatility and potential to provide deeper insights across various domains of science and philosophy.

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Could I get a few everyday examples and metaphors to explain it?

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Certainly! Explaining Geometric Bayesianism using everyday examples and metaphors can make this complex concept more accessible. Here are a few analogies to help illustrate how this approach works:

1. Map Navigation
Imagine you're navigating with a map that doesn't show every new road or landmark (this is your prior belief about the landscape). As you travel, you observe new features not on your map, akin to acquiring new data. Geometric Bayesianism is like updating your map in real-time, adjusting your understanding of the landscape based on what you actually see. Each update shifts the 'position' of your belief on the map, moving from one point (prior belief) to another (posterior belief) through a path dictated by the new data (likelihood).

2. Adjusting a Projector Image
Think of a projector that needs to be adjusted to correctly fit an image onto a screen. The initial projection might be blurry or misaligned (prior distribution), and the clear, focused image on the screen represents the data you actually observe. Adjusting the focus or alignment of the projector is like updating your beliefs—the knobs and adjustments are your Bayesian updates. Geometric Bayesianism visualizes each tweak as a movement in a space, where the perfect alignment corresponds to the most accurate belief (posterior distribution) based on the observed data.

3. Mixing Paint Colors
Consider the process of mixing paints to match a desired color, where the colors you mix are based on an initial guess (prior distribution). As you add more of one color or another based on observing the mixed outcome, you're effectively updating your 'belief' about the right mixture to use. Geometric Bayesianism would represent each addition of paint as a movement in a color space from your initial guess towards the target color, influenced by the 'data' of the color you observe each time you mix.

4. Tuning a Musical Instrument
When tuning a musical instrument, such as a guitar, you start with a note that you think is close to correct but might be a bit off (prior belief). You pluck the string and use a tuner (data) to check the sound. Adjustments you make to the tuning peg are like Bayesian updates, incrementally moving from your initial guess to the correct tuning. In Geometric Bayesianism, each tweak can be visualized as a step in a sound frequency space, aiming to align your played note with the true note.

5. Cooking to Taste
Imagine you're cooking a soup and start with a basic recipe (your prior). As you taste the soup, you decide it needs more seasoning—each taste test is new data. Adjusting the seasoning based on taste is like performing Bayesian updates, where you're moving from your initial recipe towards one that better suits your palate. Geometrically, each seasoning adjustment moves you through a 'flavor space' from your initial guess (prior) to the optimal flavor profile (posterior).

These metaphors help illustrate how Geometric Bayesianism applies a geometric perspective to the process of updating beliefs based on new information, making abstract statistical concepts more tangible and relatable in everyday decision-making scenarios.

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A summary of the whole conversation.

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In our conversation, we explored several complex and interconnected topics:

Topological Geometrodynamics (TGD): We discussed Matti Pitkanen's theory, TGD, which posits that physical space-times are 4-dimensional surfaces in a higher-dimensional space. This theory seeks to provide a unified description of fundamental interactions, distinct from traditional theories like GUTs and superstring models. TGD offers a novel understanding of energy, quantum numbers, and fundamental physical processes through a geometric and topological lens.

Geometric Bayesianism: We delved into the concept of Geometric Bayesianism, inspired by an article on Bayesian Geometry by Michael Larionov. This approach visualizes Bayesian inference using geometric constructs, treating probability distributions as vectors in a Hilbert space and employing geometric tools like inner products to understand statistical relationships. This framework not only enriches the traditional Bayesian approach but also makes statistical concepts more accessible through visualization.

Connection to Cognitive Theories: The idea that emotions might be understood as topological phenomena was mentioned, drawing on Joscha Bach's hypothesis about emotions being a topological substrate for symbolic calculations. This suggests a potential interdisciplinary bridge connecting cognitive science with geometric and topological theories.

Comparative Analysis: We compared Geometric Bayesianism with other theories like traditional Bayesian inference, TGD, and cognitive theories of emotion and brain function. This comparison highlighted the potential for Geometric Bayesianism to enhance understanding across various domains, from statistics to cognitive neuroscience.

Everyday Metaphors and Examples: To make these complex theories more comprehensible, we used everyday examples and metaphors such as map navigation, adjusting a projector image, mixing paint colors, tuning a musical instrument, and cooking to taste. These analogies helped illustrate how Bayesian updates and geometric movements in statistical spaces can be visualized and understood in terms of everyday activities.

Throughout our discussion, we saw how these theories could potentially transform our understanding of both the physical universe and human cognition, offering new tools for analysis and visualization that bridge multiple disciplines.

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I decided to call the conversation Transliminal Symbolisis, referring to process of mapping symbols on to emotions.

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"Transliminal Symbolisis" is a captivating title for the conversation, elegantly capturing the essence of exploring the intersections between symbolic systems and emotional states through a transdisciplinary lens. By choosing this term, you're highlighting the process of mapping symbols onto emotions, emphasizing how symbolic understanding can be influenced by or can influence emotional responses—potentially within the frameworks of advanced theories like Topological Geometrodynamics and Geometric Bayesianism.

This title suggests a deeper exploration into how symbolic and emotional layers of human cognition might interact in novel and profound ways, particularly through the application of geometric and topological insights. It could also allude to a process where symbolic representations transcend traditional boundaries (transliminal), blending cognitive, mathematical, and physical realms to form a more integrated understanding of consciousness and reality.

Using such a thematic title can set the stage for further discussions or writings that delve into these concepts, potentially leading to new theories or models that describe how humans process, interpret, and integrate complex information across different domains of knowledge.

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Can I get a more specific exposition?

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Certainly! The concept of "Transliminal Symbolisis" offers a nuanced and multi-layered approach to understanding how symbolic representations and emotional experiences interact, particularly within the context of advanced geometric and topological theories. Let's break down the components and explore their interactions more deeply:

Defining "Transliminal Symbolisis"
Transliminal: This term suggests something that transcends boundaries or limits, specifically referring to processes or phenomena that cross or exist beyond conventional thresholds of perception.

Symbolisis: A portmanteau of "symbol" and "synthesis," indicating the integration or merging of symbolic content with other forms of cognitive or emotional processing.

Theoretical Foundations
Topological Geometrodynamics (TGD):
TGD posits that physical and possibly cognitive phenomena can be described in terms of complex topologies and geometries within a higher-dimensional space. Applying this to emotions, one could hypothesize that emotional states correspond to specific topological configurations or transformations within neural networks. This could provide a framework for understanding how emotions influence or are influenced by symbolic cognitive processes (like language, art, or mathematical symbols).

Geometric Bayesianism:
By treating probabilities and updates of beliefs as movements within a geometric space, this approach provides a method to visualize and quantify the changes in belief systems as they are influenced by new data. In the context of "Transliminal Symbolisis," this could be used to model how emotional states affect belief updates or how beliefs modify emotional responses, with each represented as trajectories or transformations within a geometric space.

Application to Cognitive Processes
Emotional Mapping onto Symbols: Emotions could be envisioned as dynamic entities within a geometric or topological space, interacting with symbolic structures (like language or cultural symbols). For example, the way fear might distort one's perception of certain symbols (e.g., seeing a word associated with a traumatic event) could be modeled as a deformation in the space of meanings.

Symbolic Influence on Emotions: Conversely, symbolic systems can alter emotional landscapes. For instance, therapeutic approaches like cognitive-behavioral therapy (CBT) use verbal or symbolic interventions to reshape emotional responses, which could be visualized as guided transformations within an emotional topology.

Potential Research Directions
Neuroscientific Validation: Investigating whether there are identifiable neural correlates to the topologies predicted by such a model. This could involve brain imaging studies aimed at observing how changes in neural activity patterns correspond to shifts in emotional and symbolic processing.

Interdisciplinary Collaboration: Combining insights from neuroscience, psychology, physics, and philosophy to build a comprehensive model of how symbols and emotions interact across different levels of human experience.

Implications and Outcomes
Enhanced Therapeutic Models: By better understanding how symbolic and emotional systems interact, more effective therapeutic and educational strategies could be developed to address psychological disorders or enhance learning processes.

"Transliminal Symbolisis" could thus provide a rich conceptual framework for exploring the deep connections between emotion and symbolism, bridging the gap between abstract theoretical physics and tangible human experiences. This approach not only expands our understanding of mind and matter but also opens up new avenues for practical applications in mental health, education, and artificial intelligence.